RelationshipsFML: Everyone Has Time
Posted by Some Dude on April 18, 2011 at 9:48 am
Hi all! You may know me as a prolific commenter on HarvardFML; this is my new and improved means of doling out relationship advice! My apologies for my two-month absence – I got crazy busy, as happens from time to time. Anyway, got a question you want to ask, or a situation you want thoughts and advice on? Email me at somedude.harvardfml@gmail.com, and watch this space for my answer! River House asks,
Last week, a grad student friend/romantic interest whom I met last summer took me out. Last summer, I’d always freaked out because he was pretty aggressive and I was still a virgin. Last week, we had a great time going to a couple of bars and talking, and we ended up in bed at his place. He says he doesn’t want to be in a relationship because he’s busy, but I can’t stop thinking about him. I think I want something more than just sex, but I’m not sure what. So my question is, how do you think he sees me? Do you think he sees me as a potential girlfriend or just some slam piece? He’s definitely someone I would want to date in like 3 years, but I can’t see myself dating him now. Is there a way to position myself so that he will want to date me in the future?
I think you hit the nail right on the head with how you framed your ultimate question: “Is there a way to position myself so that he will want to date me in the future?” That is exactly the right way to think about this.
Let’s be clear from the start: this guy may be a tough nut to crack. You may think your options are roughly (a) change his mind about dating, (b) continue to see him but not be emotionally attached, or (c) look elsewhere. I think that’s the wrong way to look at it though, because to make this work you’re going to do all three at once. Let’s examine the situation and see how that would work.
This grad student is interested in you, but I think his interest in you is currently friend-with-benefits-like. There’s been some build-up of attraction on his end already since last summer. The question now is what you do with it. And the biggest problem you have there is that you don’t see yourself as worthy of him, which is total nonsense.
Guys care much less about relative maturity than girls do, so this is an impediment on your end, not his. While obviously there are varying degrees of maturity, I think you exaggerate the difference between yourself and a grad student. Don’t sell yourself short; the gap is smaller than you think. Maturity is only knowing when and where you can be immature.
Also, your grad student is not too busy to be in a relationship. No one is. A few years ago I dated an older girl, who had graduated, had a real job, and drove a whole hour (one way) to spend nights with me twice a week. I had projects and papers and extracurriculars that kept me busy pretty much 24/7. But we made the time. You can always make the time. It’s never a question of ability, it’s a question of willingness. If you feel strongly enough about each other, choosing to make each other a priority isn’t a hard choice.
Of course, you’ll need for the grad student to feel strongly enough about you to make that choice for this to work, and this is the challenging part! I think the grad student sees you as more than just a random hookup, but I don’t think he knows or is even actively contemplating exactly what you mean to him. Nevertheless, you’re in a good position – you can shape exactly what you want him to think of you as. Your job right now is to put it in his mind that he wants to see more of you, and that he is pursuing you. How? Run! …But not so fast that you actually leave him behind.
Don’t be clingy – see him no more than once a week on average, and communicate with him no more than three times a week outside of that on average. I trust that you two know how to have a good time. While you’re with him, try turning up the attraction. Abstinence would be going too far, but be careful not to lay on the sex too heavily; if you have sex every single time you go over to his place (or he comes over to your dorm) he will increasingly see you as someone he has sex with, not someone he’s pursuing. That is, when you feel so inclined, reward his persistence at the end of a night. Don’t be so eager for it – even if you actually are. “That which we obtain too easily we esteem too lightly” – by making yourself a little harder to get you make him value you more.
Hope that helps! Let me know what happens!
Special thanks to Bethany Harris, Sarah Luebke, Caleb Thompson, and Benjamin Viscount Nelson. Email Some Dude at somedude.harvardfml@gmail.com.

“Last summer, I’d always freaked out because he was pretty aggressive and I was still a virgin”
Some Dude, this girl/boy sounds pretty uncomfortable with this guy…I don’t think playing “hard to get” is the answer.
Also, “Don’t be so eager for it – even if you actually are.” Because everyone knows girls who want it are whores (I’m assuming this is a girl but this is still a weird statement if it’s a guy). You can’t build a relationship on withholding sex and playing stupid mind games. Games can be fun for flirting, but they don’t exactly build trust or a real connection between people.
If you want to know if he would be willing to consider having a real relationship, ask him. You don’t have to pressure him and it doesn’t have to be awkward, and in the long run, it’s a lot healthier and doesn’t require you spending weeks, if not months, trying to get him to chase you.
Hi JYM, thanks for your comment.
In this particular instance, River House (you’re correct, it’s a girl) included a lot more detail in her email, which I omitted for brevity. Long story short, no, she’s not uncomfortable with him.
I’m not saying “girls who want it are whores” – far from it. But playing hard to get really does work. Possibly you’re uncomfortable with the idea of anything “working” that wouldn’t work “on its own” as it were; is it similarly inappropriate for women to wear makeup in order to be perceived as more attractive? It’s not like she’d refuse to stop if he told her to leave him alone. That’s the line, and she’s quite far from it.
I wrote another post several months ago responding to criticism about manipulation – more of my argument can be found there, and if you want to engage in a discussion there, I’d welcome it.
Walster, E., Walster, G. W., Piliavin, J., & Schmidt, L. (1973). “Playing hard to get”: Understanding an elusive phenomenon. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 26, 113-121. http://web.ebscohost.com.ezp-prod1.hul.harvard.edu/ehost/pdfviewer/pdfviewer?hid=10&sid=def0a2b0-15b6-4b33-8e28-3d00882cf944%40sessionmgr10&vid=2
Thanks, Psych Concentrator! Fascinating stuff, and the results of that sixth experiment make a lot of sense to me. I suppose I should be more specifically recommending that people seem like they are hard to get in general without actually being too hard to get for the person they really want.
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